Copied from the sermon notes of Pastor Don Elmore
June 13, 2021
Scripture Reading: Deuteronomy 10:14, 15:
14) “Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the LORD’s thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.
15) Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers [Abraham, Isaac and Jacob] to love them, and He chose [elected] their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.”
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The month of June is national PRIDE month. Cities, counties and states join in with the national government, who attempt to make an inclusive citizenship of queers, by raising their PRIDE flag, hosting their own parties, watching their parades and keeping their celebrations. Cincinnati joined in with all the celebrations listed above. They proudly hosted the PRIDE flag above the Council door at the Court house.
Covington, Kentucky (the city right across the Ohio River from Cincinnati) was on local television and in the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper telling of all its “wonderful” activities that support the gay-rights movement. Has anyone stopped and thought that this is a recent movement? Homosexuals in the past kept their activities a “secret”. They didn’t come out of their closet and ram their beliefs down the throat of the those who opposed them.
What does the LORD God of Israel say to His covenant people about homosexuality? Didn’t He say that both parties committing homosexuality should be executed? Then why is all this celebration going on in “Christian” countries?
What recent nation put the homosexual activists in concentration camps? It was the nation that the United States allied against in WWII and who we fought against; Germany. They were better than we were on this one activity; maybe they were better than us on many others?
Bombas Pride sock collection ... celebration of all the things queer.
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Are these introductory verses correct or not? Did God say that He chose the seed of His covenant people to be above all people. Or did He say that His people would be below all people? Or did He say that they would be equal to all people?
If there is a group of people who are above all people; is that not supremacy? Is this not white supremacy, if you believe that the white race is the “seed” of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Or is it really the supremacy of Almighty God, for He is the one who makes His chosen ones supreme?
But maybe there are some who say, “No. That is not white supremacy; it is Jewish supremacy.” That would be the conclusion of the people who believe that the modern-day Jews are the descendants of the covenant people that God made with Abraham. But is that the Ashkenazi Jews (who make up over 90% of the Jewish population today and who are descended from Japheth not Shem), or is that the Sephardic Jews, or the Hassidic Jews, or the Indian Jews, etc. Which one of the different kind of Jews is it? They hate each other, but they unite to fight against God and the Christians.
Southern Baptists have said that they once taught the devil’s doctrine until 1995, when they confessed and repented of their sin of “racism”. Was racism a sin? They have now switched to “racial reconciliation”. They both can’t be correct. Were they right before 1995 or after? Or are they never right?
The white people (not the Jews) are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and are the elect of God. The laws of God were given only to them. You are the elect of God if you are of a pure white seed. If you are of any other race, or a mongrel, then you are not one of God’s elect.
There are two major seed lines in the Bible; one who has God as their father, and the other who has the devil as their father. They both have the same mother -- Eve. They have been in a death struggle for over 6000 years. Jesus said to one of these seed lines that “they could not hear His words.” Why do you think that He told His people to destroy all the Canaanites, men, women and children; instead of sending missionaries to them? It was impossible for any Canaanite to believe the LORD God of Israel?
AN INTERESTING WEBSITE
Looking at the internet, I came across a most interesting website. It compared what a Christian Identity preacher believed with a Judeo-Christian preacher’s rebuttal. I am going to refrain from mentioning the name of the Christian Identity preacher until the end of this sermon. The website just said that he seems like a nice guy, professional looking and well-spoken. But his views that focus on white supremacy and the separation of the races are wrong.
The website said that “here are his major arguments and how they just are not what God is really trying to tell us in scripture.” The website adds that nowhere on his website does this Christian Identity preacher list any college or seminary education.
The Christian Identity preacher was not allowed to rebut the Judeo-Christian’s comments. They took statements that he made and had them rebutted by a Judeo-Christian. Thus, it wasn’t a real debate; It was one-sided.
To make it fair, I will question and point out areas of disagreement between the two. The women harshly criticized the Christian Identity pastor. I will take the place of the Christian Identity pastor who was not given the chance to rebut his rebutter.
My views are given inside of brackets [ ]. My first view:
[This website is against what the Christian Identity preacher is saying on the topics of white supremacy and the separation of the races. They began by putting a sublinear message that he is possibly not a graduate of any college, university or seminary because his website doesn’t list any. But just because he doesn’t list any, doesn’t mean that he doesn’t have any. I don’t list the universities I have attended either on the church’s website. I have earned over 200 university credits; from over six different educational institutions.
This C-I preacher is very well educated, but he doesn’t have to be. But he must be well-read, and the Holy Spirit must give him the ability to understand the scriptures. And He has.
The website goes on and says that he is refuted by the Rev. Dr. Sarah J. Rohret’s, who credentials are:
- A Bachelor of Arts from University of Northern Iowa in Religious Studies,
- MDIV University of Dubuque Theological Seminary; focus of Greek & New Testament,
- Doctor of Ministry, University of Dubuque Theological Seminary.
Dubuque Theological Seminary is a Presbyterian Seminary located in Dubuque, Iowa.
I guess the website thinks that because she has a seminary degree gives her the advantage in the arguments presented by the Christian Identity preacher.]
FIRST REASON
The website has the Christian Identity preacher saying the following, which is then rebutted by his opponent. First the C-I preacher:
“Well, simply stated, Jesus is against race-mixing because it is a SIN, a violation of His Divine Law, even His creative law which established a ‘kind after kind’ process in Genesis 1:21-26. You will notice that within these verses we are told, ‘every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind…let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind’, and so forth.
Question: if the fowl have their different kinds and types, and the cattle their different kinds and types, and the fish their kind and types, etc., then it should be equally obvious and true that then are also different kinds and types of man. In other words, in nature as God created them, there is a natural inbred knowledge and instinct of separation within all species of animals. There are different types and varieties of eagles, such as the Bald eagle, the Golden eagle, White-tailed eagle, Short-toed eagle and Imperial eagle. All of these eagles are of the same progeny or breed.
The same holds true for the different variety of bipeds. God Almighty did not make a mistake in creating the different races of people. In fact, the principle ‘what God hath put together, let no man put asunder’ is very much applicable to the ‘kind after kind’ principle. Kind after kind is the creation rule and carnal minded man grossly violated this principle of Divine creation.”
[The Christian Identity pastor first brings the argument of “kind after kind.” He argues that if the birds, fish, creeping things, and others have ‘kind after kind’, so do man and humans. As Muhammad Ali once said, “You don’t see a blue-bird mating with a robin.”]
Then the rebuttal presented by the woman Presbyterian preacher :
“She names the Christian Identity preacher and says that he] is trying to make the case that human skin color is akin to different breeds within animals which simply isn’t scientifically valid.”
[Where did the C-I pastor say this?]
“The Smithsonian Institute is doing a lot of work around the issue of human origins.
The [Smithsonian Institute] states:
‘The billions of human beings living today all belong to one species: Homo sapiens. As in all species, there is variation among individual human beings, from size and shape to skin tone and eye color. But we are much more alike than we are different. We are, in fact, remarkably similar. The DNA of all human beings living today is 99.9% alike.’
The scripture from Genesis 1:21 talks about different kinds of animals. To try and apply that to color variation in people is to make a great leap that simply isn’t there in the scripture. The Bible is clear that we are all descendants of Adam & Eve, one family, one kind.
There is no such thing as ‘inter-breeding’ or ‘race mixing’ because we are not different breeds or races. We are different shades of the same breed - chocolate labs, black labs, yellow labs, we are all labs (they are happy dogs!)”
[There is a major problem presented by the Judeo-Christian preacher. If the Judeo-Christian preacher is right, then Patrisse Cullors, one of the three queer founders of Black Live Matters, Inc. is wrong. Patrisse said that she comes from a tribe in Nigeria, Africa which is over 8,000 years old. Adam was formed out of the dust of the earth only 6,000 years ago. There is a 2,000-year difference. Patrisse Cullors could not be a descendant of Adam and Eve. Her ancestors were around, she said, over 2,000 years before Adam was created.
But the Smithsonian Institute does tell of the amazing story of adaptation and survival in our species, Homo sapiens, is written in the language of our genes, in every cell of our bodies—as well as in the fossil and behavioral evidence. If we explore the African origins of modern humans about 200,000 years ago and celebrate our species’ epic journey around the world…”
[Whoa! Isn’t that enough?
The Smithsonian says that all two-legged people are descended from two Africans about 200,000 years ago? Isn’t that talking about the false doctrine of evolution? What does the Smithsonian say about the creation of Adam? Adam wasn’t born; he was created out of the dust of the earth. He was created as an adult; he never was a fetus, baby, infant, teenager, or young adult. He was created as an adult and was told that he would live forever if he obeyed what God had said. And the Smithsonian is only about 200,000 years off. What is the purpose of citing the Smithsonian instead of the Bible?
The seminary graduate says that there is no “inter-breeding” or “race-mixing”. But can she explain, if that is true, why was it was that in America it was against the law for anyone to race-mix until 1967? Does she think that she can just cancel out the words “race-mix” and it will be no more?
And the seminary graduate failed to mention that there became two seed lines 6,000 years ago. These two seed lines had two different fathers; but, had the same mother. These two seed lines would have natural enmity towards each other. There would be no peace on the earth until one of these seed lines was annihilated. The goal of the evil seed line is to completely annihilate the seed line that loves the LORD God of Israel. That is found in the Bible that she studied in the seminary, but she should have learned it in the church that she attended.
The God of the Bible did not love, know, choose, elect or have any dealings, covenants or interrelationship with any other racial group on the planet like He did with Israel. The phrase, “God of Israel” is used 200 times in the Bible, but we never see God’s name attached to any other people. He is never called the God of the Hittites, Amorites, Philistines, Canaanites, Edomites, or Jebusites. Likewise, the God of the Bible is not the God of the Chinese, Japanese, Africans, Eskimos, Polynesians, Indians, Cubans, Mexicans, Egyptians, Assyrians, Amalekites, Perizzites, Horonites, Ammonites, Hindus, Arabs, Jews, or Buddhists, etc. It is not strictly a personal choice; it is God’s choice.
That ended the first reason why White supremacy and separatism is either right or wrong from the Scriptures. Now let us go on to the second debatable reason.]
SECOND REASON
The Christian Identity preacher gave his view first and then it was rebutted by the woman preacher:
“Speaking of politically correct, I’m sure most of you Christians remember the great story of Nehemiah and the tremendous faith and vision he had to rebuild the walls of Jerusalem. Over the years, I have heard wonderful messages about Nehemiah and the many forms of opposition he had to overcome in order to complete the wall. Nehemiah is used as an example of a man who had a conviction of faith, not a preference of faith; a man whose heart was close to God. Well, let’s read the following verses regarding race-mixing, and let’s see how Nehemiah deals with the problem.
Nehemiah 13:23-30:
23) “In those days also saw I Jews [Judeans of the Southern Kingdom of Judah] that had married wives of Ashdod, of Ammon, and of Moab;
24) And their children spake half in the speech of Ashdod, and could not speak in the Jews’ [Judean’s] language, but according to the language of each people.
25) And I contended with them, and cursed them, and smote certain of them, and plucked off their hair, and made them swear by God, saying, ye shall not give your daughters unto their sons, nor take their daughters unto your sons or for yourselves.
26) Did not Solomon, king of Israel, sin by these things? Yet among many nations was there no king like him, who was beloved of his God, and God made him king over all Israel: nevertheless even him did outlandish women cause to sin.
27) Shall we, then, hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?
28) And one of the sons of Joiada, the son of Eliashib the high priest, was son in law to Sanballat the Horonite: therefore I chased him from me.
29) Remember them, O my God, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites.
30) Thus cleansed I them from all strangers, and appointed the duties of the priests and the Levites, everyone in his business;”
[Nehemiah was very upset because there were men of Judah who had married women from Ashdod, Ammon and Moab. They, like Solomon before them, had let their marriages to strangers cause them to sin. It was called a great sin, i.e. the marriage with strange women.
One of the sons of the Priesthood had committed this great evil. Nehemiah ran him out of town. His name was Manasseh, brother of Jaddua, son of Joiada and grandson of Eliahib the high priest, who was married to the daughter of Sanballat the Horonite. Thus, Eliahab, the high priest, had married his grandson to Sanballat’s daughter, who was a foreigner. This produced a connection with Tobiah, the friend of Sanballat; thus, the corruption began.
And while Nehemiah was absent in Babylon, Eliashib the high priest, having the oversight of the chamber of the house of our God, was allied with Tobiah the Ammonite, a Sanballat associate. He leased the large storeroom of the Temple to Tobias. When Nehemiah returned, he drove out Manasseh, Eliahib’s (the high priest) grandson, along with Tobiah’s furniture out of the Temple. Nehemiah purified the room and put back all that had originally been there.
The Baal priests built a temple in Mount Gerizim, over which they put the former priest of God to officiate in their false temple. The despiser of the covenant, Manasseh, was rewarded by the Baal priests, in becoming the high priest of the Temple of Mount Gerizim.
This is like the Judeo-Christian churches of today. It is like the church where the rebutter is preaching; a place where other races (strangers) and mongrels falsely attempt to worship the God of the Bible.
This is a quick review of what happened in the Book of Nehemiah that should be taught in any Christian seminary. But in her rebuttal, she fails to mention anything about what Nehemiah said or did and if she knows of any of her associates who had preached on the subject in the book of Nehemiah.]
The Christian Identity preacher continued:
“I have to admit, that of all the various messages I’ve heard from the book of Nehemiah, I have never heard one Judeo-Christian minister preach from these Bible passages. I wonder why? Could it be that these verses may be just a little too sensitive for congregations who have been taught that race-mixing is perfectly okay, or even right and proper in the eyes of God? Well, if it’s so right, why do we find race-mixing condemned in the Word of God from Genesis through Revelation? Notice verse 27, “Shall we then hearken unto you to do all this great evil, to transgress against our God in marrying strange wives?” Race-mixing is referred to as a ‘great evil,’ even described as ‘to transgress,’ meaning a SIN.”
[The Christian Identity pastor raises a good point. Is race-mixing a “great evil?” Nehemiah and Ezra thought so. When they heard of it, they rent their clothes and tore their hair out. Is this C-I (Christian Identity) preacher right or wrong in his views on this topic? Let’s hear the rebuttal.]
The Judeo-Christian woman preacher with several seminary degrees says in the defense of race-mixing:
“(She starts out by giving the Christian Identity preacher’s name once again and then says that his) argument is that Nehemiah is concerned about race. This is not true. Nehemiah doesn’t want Israelites to marry people of other religions who will bring idol worship into ‘good Jewish homes’. Nehemiah is trying to rebuild a Jewish community that has been pulled apart by being over-run by other tribes and nations. He works to rebuild the walls of the Temple and to get the people to follow the laws of Moses.”
[First of all, are Nehemiah, and his people, Jewish? This writer for Judeo-Christianity says that they are. Christian Identity says that they are of the White race. Which one is correct? Which one is wrong? Or are they both wrong?]
“Inter-marriage here is the issue – but it’s not about race. The people of this area are all about the same color – dark tan. Jewish people from the Middle East look like the people from the Middle East – dark.”
[Again, the teacher of this view says that race-mixing is not evil. She says that the “Jews” and the other races in the Middle East all look alike. They are all dark skinned. But she is equating Jews with the Covenant People of God. That is not what C-I says. Who she is calling “Jews” are what Christian Identity says are “White people?”
And during the time of Nehemiah, over 90% of all Israelites are not anywhere near Jerusalem. These other Israelites are not mentioned by the rebutter. She just says that the covenant people were “dark-skinned”, but were the people of Wales, Ireland, Scotland, Britain, and Western Europe, etc. dark-skinned?
If she is right, then why would God forbid any marriages with the Canaanite nations that were occupying the Promised Land? Her argument was that they were all dark-skinned and of different religions.]
“Color of skin is not the issue -- religion is the issue. Nehemiah wants people to become faithful again to God and the first law of Moses’ ten commandments is to worship God only and never to have any idols. Faithfulness in families is a lot easier when everyone is of the same religion.”
[This is their major argument and it is their best one, because it is a half-truth. But her explanation runs into some very bad conclusions. Religion is an issue, but so is the color of the spouse’s skin. So is hair color and texture, eye color, DNA to understand God’s law, DNA to not hear God’s Word, DNA to be a liar. All are an issue. The answer is that race and religion go together. Each different race has their own gods
Answers in Genesis says the same thing as the rebutting author. They say that a White believer marrying a White unbeliever is a marriage that God does not approve. But a White believer marrying a Black believer is one that God does approve. But what is wrong with this view?
First, how could anyone but a pure descendant of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob be a believer in true Christianity? If you believe that the descendants of this covenant are the Jews, then the Jews are the only ones who could believe that they are the covenant people of God. But they still reject the Son of God to this day, teaching that He was an imposter. And they murdered the Son of God and deny His resurrection. So, they are not the covenant seed. “You shall know them by their fruits.”
Second, if you believe, as the C-I preacher does, that it is the White people who are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, then only the pure seed of this racial line are the recipients of God’s divine favor. That would make the White race the superior race, but only if they are obey God’s holy law. If not, their enemy would be the head, and they would be the tail. It would be Jewish supremacy, not white supremacy in today’s world.
Third, if you believe that it is the pure seed of the covenant people, any race-mixing would produce children who are not pure seed. They could not be part of the covenant seed any more. Their parents would have despised the covenant. Look at what happened to Esau. Look at what his parents said and did as a result of his race-mixing. And look at what they did with Jacob. And did Jacob marry someone who had another religion, but was the same race as he?
Fourth, Almighty God calls Himself the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. This was part of the White race; one family. This was the people who God loved, showed mercy to and promised that their kingdom would never be completely destroyed. No Negro, Oriental, Pacific Islander, Hispanic, or malutos, etc. was part of these covenant people. This was the people that He was the literal king over for about three centuries. Do you think that He loves these people or the enemies who fought against them while He was king?
Fifth, did our God approve of any marriage between His covenant people if one or both spouses were unbelievers? What did our God do when the whole House of Israel was swept away with Baal worship? What marriages did he approve of?
Sixth, there are two seed lines mentioned in the Bible that started at the same time. Two seed lines that have two different fathers, but the same mother. These two seed lines would hate each other and would fight against each other from the first two descendants. There can be no peace on the earth if these two seed lines exist. These two seed lines are half-brothers. They were forbidden by God to marry each other’s descendants, even though they could reasonably look the same in appearance. Nothing is said about these two very different seed lines in the rebuttal.
Seven, what about the giants that appear in the Old Testament. Who was their original father? Why didn’t Israel have any giants in their lineage? Nothing is mentioned about these menacing giants that inhabited entire cities in the ancient days of Israel. No giant is recorded in the Bible as being a child of God.]
“There is a lot of argument in the Bible against marrying people of other religions, but not people of other color of skin. In fact in many places we assume that couples are of different races such as Moses (Jewish) & Zipporah who is part of a native tribe of Ethiopia and therefore probably darker skinned. Theirs is a ‘mixed race’ marriage that is celebrated, not condemned in scripture. Even Disney recognized this fact in the making of the movie ‘Prince of Egypt.’”
[Well, there she goes again. She calls Moses a Jew and she bases that on what a Disney cartoon says, and she is a seminary graduate. Moses was not a Jew. Their own [Jewish] books say that Jews are descendants of Esau. And she calls Moses’ marriage to Zipporah, an Ethiopian, another dark-skinned, a mixed marriage! Her assumptions are incorrect.
First, Moses was not a Jew. He was White; he was an Israelite.
Second, Zipporah was not from Northern Africa. She was not from the country of Ethiopia. She was a White Cushite.
Third, Zipporah was of Abraham. Even though Moses’ father-in-law was called a Kenite (son of Cain), this title was used because he lived in a providence of the Kenites. Jethro/Reuel was of Abraham, not of the line of Cain.
Fourth, Zipporah was of the line of Abraham and his wife Keturah. One of their seven sons was named Medan. When Moses fled Egypt, he went to the land of Midian. Zipporah was the daughter of Reuel, who was descended from Medan, who was one of the sons of Abraham and Keturah.
Well, who do you believe so far? The Christian Identity preacher or the Judeo-Christian preacher? Maybe you don’t believe either one. But you must decide the basic question: Does the God of Israel say that race-mixing is a sin.
One says that race-mixing is marrying a person of another race; while the other says that the sin is marrying a person of a different religion; race doesn’t matter. But Christian Identity says that a person of another race has a different religion.
I wonder what the Judeo-Christian preacher would say about the House of Israel. Before they split off from the House of Judah, they became a Baal worshipping nation. So, who was an Israelite to marry, if God condemned marrying a person of your same race who had a different religion?]
Are your minds made-up yet? If not, here is the third reason:
THIRD REASON
The Christian Identity preacher makes his third reason:
“Even back in Deut. 7:1-3, God Almighty warned His people Israel against the dangers of race mixing. Whether we understand all the ‘ifs, and whys, or buts,’ we had better determine to obey God rather than men. If we (as Christians) do not have the love of God in our hearts, then we will develop into the type of nation America has become today, a pluralistic paganistic nation which embraces that which is pleasing in our own sight.
Heed the following warning from Joshua 23:
Joshua 23:11-13:
11) ‘Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God.
12) Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you:
13) Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you; but they shall be snares and traps unto you, and scourges in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which the LORD your God hath given you.’
In light of all that we have covered from the Word of God, can any true Christian truthfully believe that Bob Jones University is motivated by hate? Can they believe that if Jesus Christ were here today, He would be walking hand in hand with the likes of Al Gore, Bill Bradley, John McCain and even George W. Bush (who is going out of his way to distance himself from the University)?
Regarding the question: “Would Jesus Christ condone race-mixing?” The answer should now be obvious—JESUS CHRIST WOULD NOT CONDONE RACE-MIXING!”
[The Christian Identity pastor uses Joshua 23 to prove his point on race-mixing. The LORD tells Israel that there are some remnants of the Canaanites, that are left in the land. One thing that he requires of them is for them not to marry any of the Canaanites. If they do, they will eventually perish off the land.
Now the Judeo-Christians will say that this “no marriage ban” was because of their religion and not their race, for everyone is of the same race – that is, the human race. But, as we said before, this is a half-truth. Why would God make the marriage ban to all the Canaanite people if the Canaanite people had the possibility of being one of His own? They couldn’t. They wouldn’t. That is the point!
There is no Canaanite individual who ever worshipped the LORD God. He worshipped his original father; he worshipped the devil. Where in the Bible do we see a Canaanite be a worshipper of the God of Israel. Nowhere!
And why is the LORD God called the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Because the LORD made a covenant with Abram, Isaac and Jacob and their seed. The Bible never calls Him the God of the Edomites or the God of the Canaanites or the God of the Kenites.
He eventually became the king over the nation of Israel; His covenant people. His throne was in the inner section of the Temple. Do you think that He would favor the people that He was king over? Or would he favor the kingdoms that fought against Israel. There were even some battles in the Old Testament where God declares emphatically that the battle was not yours (Israel), but was Mine (the LORD God of Israel).
Let’s see how the Judeo-Christian answers the argument given by the Christian Identity pastor.]
The rebuttal given by the Judeo-Christian pastor:
“[Once again, she says the C-I pastor’s name] wants you to read only verses 1-3, but look a verse further:
Deuteronomy 7:1-4:
1) ‘When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou.
2) And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them, thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them.
3) Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4) For they will turn away thy son from following me, that thy may serve other gods: so will the anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.’”
The Judeo-Christian then names the C-I pastor and say that he:
“…choses his verses so that you do not see that the issue here is not color of skin but of religion and faithfulness to God. He does the same with Joshua 23, where verse 7 is very important (but he wants you to start at verse 11). Here is Joshua 23:7-13a.”
Joshua 23:7-13a:
7) “That ye come not among these nations, these that remain among you; neither make mention of the name of their gods, nor cause to swear by them, neither serve them, nor bow yourselves unto them:
8) But cleave unto the LORD your God, as ye have done unto this day.
9) For the LORD hath driven out from before you great nations and strong: but as for you, no man hath been able to stand before you unto this day.
10) One man of you shall chase a thousand: for the LORD your God, He it is that fighteth for you, as He hath promised you.
11) Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love the LORD your God.
12) Else if ye do in any wise go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and shall make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you:
13a) Know for a certainty that the LORD your God will no more drive out any of these nations from before you;”
The Judeo-Christian woman pastor concludes by writing that:
“…by reading from verse 7, we see exactly what Joshua and God are worried about – the people mixing with tribes of other religions. God has cleared the land for his tribe, the Israelites, and God doesn’t want to have to do any more killing. Those who are living can continue to live if the Israelites can stay faithful to God and not be tempted into idol worship through intermarriage. Nothing in here is about color of skin – all these different tribes (like different Native American tribes) have intermarried for hundreds of years and everyone is pretty much the same color: dark.”
The Judeo-Christian race-mixing advocate concluded by once again saying the Christian Identity pastor’s last name and then said:
“[He] has given no evidence whatsoever to be able to say Jesus would not condone ‘race-mixing.’ His argument is deeply flawed. Jesus was always getting into trouble for hanging out with the wrong kind of people and encouraged the authorities of the time to not be so rigid, but to see the inner spirit of every person. We have every reason to think that Jesus would say the inner person, not their color, is what is most important in marriage.”
[There are two main points that are raised against the Christian Identity pastor by the woman preacher:
- There are not any different races in the world. There is only one race and that is the human race.
[That is not true. That is their first error. God created Adam and the word “Adam” and “man” are the same in the Bible. Hu(e)mans refer to the colored individuals on the earth. There are more color bipeds on the earth that descendants of Adam and Eve.
How do you get different races from the same two parents? They all say, including Answers in Genesis, that the original parents were a mid-brown color. How can you get a pure White couple from parents who are mid-brown? How do you get a pure Black couple from parents who are mid-brown? How do you get a pure Oriental couple from parents who are mid-brown? They must do some fast talking to convince the people of that. But they are doing it.
They then theorize that the different races came into being less than 4500 years ago, after they were scattered by languages after the destruction of the Tower of Babel. So, there were no Negros until then. There were no Orientals until then. There were no Hispanics until then. Then were none of the different races until then. This is disproven by history which says there were Negroes, Chinese, Incas, Whites and Kenites, etc., alive and well long before this time.
It has only been in recent years that the notion that there is only one race has taken hold on the large part of the population. But there are several different races on the earth. There are two main seed lines that have enmity placed in their souls against each other. It was placed there by Almighty God. And there were races who were before these two seed lines came into being.
What race is Kamala Harris? Her father was a black Jamaican who was owner of black slaves in his plantation that he ruled, and her mother was an Indian doctor from India. Is she a pure black? No. Is she a pure Indian? No. She is a “confusion of face” is the way the Bible puts it. She is part of the mongrel race, which is exactly what the Jewish race is. They are the product of race-mixing and contained part of the seed of the devil. She is married to a prominent Jew.
This is the main reason that the (Jewish) Communists want to completely annihilate the White race. They want every White girl to have sexual relations with an individual of another race. That would make their offspring not pure. That is one reason they hated the Third Reich of the Germans so much. And that is why they (the communists) promoted rape with the German women. The Germans knew this truth.]
God is not against race-mixing. He is against the marriage of one of His believers with an unbeliever.
[This is the half-truth that is so convincing to many Israelite people who go to “Christian”-named churches. Let’s think about this for a minute. How many Negroes of the 1300s do you know who were “Christians?” How many Orientals do you know who called themselves “Christians” who were living in the 1300s? How many South American Indian tribes do you know who called themselves “Christian” who were living in the 1300s?
Who were the people, who called themselves “Christians,” down through all the ages? It was only the White people or White Israelites who had the Bible and eventually translated it into their different spoken languages (German, Spanish, French, Dutch, Swedish, English, etc.).
So, God was saying the same thing when He said to His covenant people not to marry a person who was not of your race; for they couldn’t be of your religion. Each race has their own gods. That is the reason Israel was to be a separate nation; because the other races would soon convince them to follow their gods and abandon their LORD God. And that is exactly what has happened in the United States.]
WHO WAS THE CHRISTIAN IDENTITY PASTOR?
So, who was the Christian Identity pastor who was so misrepresented by the Judeo-Christian woman preacher? It is my friend, Pastor Dave Barley. Dave runs “America’s Promises Ministries” inherited from his father-in-law, Sheldon Emry. The website that set up this confrontation of the two pastors said that Dave has “taken advantage of online media with a professional website and YouTube videos… But his views on white supremacy and separation of the races” (are a point of contention).
Thank God for Pastor Dave Barley and his wife, the daughter of Sheldon Emry. Thank God for Pastor Everett Ramsey and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Charles Jennings and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Dan Gayman and his late wife. Thank God for Pastor Reed Benson and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Lawrence Blanchard and his wife. Thank God for the late Mark Downey and his wife. Thank God for minister and Biblical scholar Bill Finck and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Tom Robb and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Kevyn Reid and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Matthew Dyer and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Ken Kemble and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Jerry Wickey and his wife. Thank God for Pastor Jim Jester and his wife. Thank God for Larry Sileven, Steve Kukla, Alex Robb, Brian Jones, Walt Giddings and their wives, etc. Thank God for my wife, and for all the people who help in putting on and participating in the yearly Conference.
Stand strong and do not back down. The LORD God of Israel said that the battle is not ours, but His.
Blessed be the LORD God of Israel.